Be Humble, Be Present, and Don’t Be Peter Pan
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Luke Lezon’s ministry path hasn’t followed a straight line. Fresh out of college, he received several unique preaching opportunities – only to watch them quickly disappear. Later, in the wake of a painful church split in Orlando, Luke was thrust into the lead pastor role at just twenty-nine years old. This week, he joins Nate Dewberry to talk candidly about seasons that tested his faith and leadership, and the lessons God used to shape him through it: learning humility, balancing work and family, and finding a renewed willingness to understand and forgive others.
Show Notes
Segment chapters
0:00 Intro/Luke’s upbringing and call to ministry
7:57 Humbled by the Lord in a season of youthful arrogance
12:40 Luke’s unusual path to his current role in ministry
21:08 Leading a church in a big city/Mentors and role models
30:28 Raising a family while running a church
34:54 What’s on Luke’s current reading list
39:52 Regular practices for spiritual growth
44:56 A key message to listeners: “Don’t be Peter Pan”
Snippets/excerpts
5:59 to 7:26—An unforgettable preacher inspires Luke to begin his own journey toward ministry
9:50 to 11:40—“A very difficult season of being sat down and put on the sidelines”: Following a season of youthful arrogance, Luke describes a season of being humbled
16:08 to 17:57—At a Florida church that had just endured a major split among the congregation, Luke becomes lead pastor almost by default
18:41 to 20:31—Luke describes how going through a period of controversy at his Orlando church changed some of his perspectives and preconceived notions
30:58 to 32:36—“Making sure my family’s not eating leftovers”: How Luke balances his ministry work with his responsibilities as a father
42:58 to 44:40—Men have a responsibility to take care of themselves—not just for their own sakes, but for their families’
Discussion
2:03—Have you ever viewed religion mainly as a way to get the “Willy Wonka ticket to heaven”? When did it become something more, and what sparked that change in perspective? Matthew 7:21 (NIV)
5:55—If you went to college, what kind of college experience were you looking for — big state school, small private school, something in between? Why was that environment important to you? Did it have any influence on your spiritual development as a young man? Proverbs 13:20 (NIV)
10:13—What was the point or stage in your life when you were the most cocky or arrogant? What do you think was the reason for that attitude? Did you ever get brought “back down to earth,” and if so, how did it happen? James 4:6b (NIV)
16:48—Have you ever been in a position where people turned to you for leadership in a time of fracture and uncertainty? How did you feel when you were thrust into that position: excited, scared, proud, overwhelmed? Did you worry that you were unworthy of the moment? How did you overcome those doubts? 2 Corinthians 12:9 (NIV)
20:34—Have you ever had a negative opinion of someone that changed once you got to know them or came to understand their circumstances? Do you feel like other people hold some negative opinions of you that would change if they got to know who you really are? 1 Samuel 16:7b (NIV)
23:07—Do you have an “escape” that you frequently turn to in times of inner turmoil? Is it a place, an activity, a person, an unhealthy habit? What makes that escape so attractive to you? What does it feel like when you return to the “real world” and your problems are still waiting for you? Psalm 46:1 (NIV)
31:12—Was there ever a time in your childhood when your parents were devoting themselves to work or other activities and you felt like you were getting their “leftovers”? How did that affect you? Have you ever gone through a period when you realized you were doing that to your own family? What prompted that realization, and how did you change your behavior? Ephesians 6:4 (NIV)
41:06—How regularly do you pray? Do you devote time to it on a daily basis? The times that you’ve fallen out of the habit of regular prayer, what’s usually been going on in your life that’s taken that time away? Luke 5:16 (NIV)
Other resources–books Lukas recommended
- Donald Miller, Blue Like Jazz: Nonreligious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality
- Timothy Keller, The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism (among others)
- Eugene Peterson, As Kingfishers Catch Fire: A Conversation on the Ways of God Formed by the Words of God
- Eugene Peterson, A Long Obedience in the Same Direction: Discipleship in an Instant Society
- Tom Holland, Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World
- Dr. Michael Heiser, The Unseen Realm: Discovering the Supernatural World of the Bible
- Jenni Catron, Culture Matters: A Framework for Helping Your Team Grow, Thrive, and Be Unstoppable
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